Well, recently, I, had the opportunity, many of, to go to Indonesia. this was a conference that they had organized, for several, different people within their mission, biblical ministries worldwide. They also invited myself and their pastor on the East Coast and, other missionaries to come and hear from several different speakers on, evangelizing in an Islamic area. And at this conference, I really came to see the value in having people like Dan and Lillian, they, they had their area director there, also just the general director of, of BMW was there, really trying to give them counsel and guidance as they are praying through where to settle down, in Indonesia.
And also what would be some of the best ways to reach Muslims in their context. And one of the things that really hit me at the conference, and I've, I've heard different stories about this. I don't know if you guys have heard a book, heard of a book called, A Wind in the House of Islam. There's many reports of, of Muslims around the world, coming to know Jesus Christ as their savior.
In fact, many would say that there is a revival going on, amongst Muslim people. But one of the speakers that we heard from at this conference was a gentleman by the name of Mike Shipman, who's been instrumental in leading thousands of people to Christ in the largest Islamic country in the world. and he's written a book about what the Lord is doing there. We're, I'm gonna be talking a little bit about that book later.
But he has seen, approximately 14,000 people come to know Christ, not from him directly, but through the generations of people that have come to know the Lord in his particular area. 14 generations, actually, I think it's 12 generations of small group churches or house churches. there is clearly a movement of the Holy Spirit going on. And at this conference, he shared with us some of the things that they were attempting to do when they first arrived....